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Post by Richard on Jun 7, 2017 10:26:13 GMT
The C Stock for the Virtual District was started some years ago, but went into abeyance when other matters took on more importance. I'm pleased to say that its now revived and I can show some screenshots of the model operating in the Sim. The train has been made by me and the cab by Darren Carter. However, please don't ask when it will be released. I'm only showing screenshots now so that you know we are not being idle!  Even though most of the modelling is now finished, you will know from operating the D Stock that Jimi takes the accurate simulation aspect very seriously and so it will still be a lot of hard work on his part to get the C Stock working as well as the D78. Hopefully we will be able to keep you up to date with the project on these pages. |
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Post by Richard on Jun 7, 2017 10:33:23 GMT
And some shots of Darren's cab. |
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Post by Richard on Jun 7, 2017 10:34:32 GMT
And the internal view of a car.
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Post by theflyingoreo on Jun 8, 2017 6:50:50 GMT
Looking good Richard
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Post by Eddie on Jun 8, 2017 13:57:20 GMT
I'd forgotten what a stunning model this was. Although, this was built some time ago, it compares with the very best payware modelling out there right now. I'm inspired to finish the Wimbledon to Edgware Road ( Wimbleware ) branch of the District, so it has somewhere to run as a complete WTT roster. Looking forward to getting the bulldozers and cranes out for the first time in a few years now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 15:42:42 GMT
Please message me when you release it
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Post by Eddie on Jun 8, 2017 18:35:13 GMT
Keep an eye on these boards, it will be announced on here first.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 11:05:03 GMT
And some shots of Darren's cab. Wow Richard! I like it and it seems the moquette is too stretched out and low quality let me know if you need any parts taken a photo of as I have 3 C Stock parts and one is some seats a sun blind and a footplate just message me and I can help |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 11:07:54 GMT
The C Stock for the Virtual District was started some years ago, but went into abeyance when other matters took on more importance. I'm pleased to say that its now revived and I can show some screenshots of the model operating in the Sim. The train has been made by me and the cab by Darren Carter. However, please don't ask when it will be released. I'm only showing screenshots now so that you know we are not being idle! Even though most of the modelling is now finished, you will know from operating the D Stock that Jimi takes the accurate simulation aspect very seriously and so it will still be a lot of hard work on his part to get the C Stock working as well as the D78. Hopefully we will be able to keep you up to date with the project on these pages. and parts of the D Stock Simulation were not right with the flags he got the No flags up simulation right but If the ‘Weak Field’ Flag is raised (visible) the acceleration rate is slightly increased and the train will now achieve 40 mph before the ‘coasting' effect as described above takes over. There are only certain areas where this is permissible If the ‘Coasting Control’ Flag is raised the train has the lower acceleration rate but will continue to gain speed until the Train Operator returns the CTBC to a position where motoring is not being requested. Potentially the train will get to about 50 mph in this configuration (space permitting!). If both Flags were to be raised the train would would have the potential to reach its maximum design speed - about 60 mph. However this configuration is not permissible - see below. |
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Post by Jimi on Jun 11, 2017 23:51:22 GMT
To be precise, if WF down and Coast down, then the train will accelerate to 31mph and then coast (un-motor). It will re-motor when speed decays to 28mph. If WF raised, the speeds are 36 (re-motor) and 40 (coast). These values are from the D78 Operator's Training Guide and validated by several I/OPs as being sufficiently accurate - all trains differ slightly due to age, motors and other equipment variances.
If Coast is raised, the train will accelerate to the balance speed of the specific motor type (Brush LT118), which is influenced by line voltage and back EMF caused by the field windings - but somewhere between 38-43 on a level grade. I checked my LUA code and it's currently set to soft-limit at about 38, which is a bit low. We can improve that. Likewise for the 73TS (same motors, pinion ratio and wheel size, but no coast control).
Now let's please get back on topic - discussion of the in-development C Stock.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 20:42:05 GMT
To be precise, if WF down and Coast down, then the train will accelerate to 31mph and then coast (un-motor). It will re-motor when speed decays to 28mph. If WF raised, the speeds are 36 (re-motor) and 40 (coast). These values are from the D78 Operator's Training Guide and validated by several I/OPs as being sufficiently accurate - all trains differ slightly due to age, motors and other equipment variances. If Coast is raised, the train will accelerate to the balance speed of the specific motor type (Brush LT118), which is influenced by line voltage and back EMF caused by the field windings - but somewhere between 38-43 on a level grade. I checked my LUA code and it's currently set to soft-limit at about 38, which is a bit low. We can improve that. Likewise for the 73TS (same motors, pinion ratio and wheel size, but no coast control). Now let's please get back on topic - discussion of the in-development C Stock. you need help on high quality images i can take with c stock parts |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2017 15:29:34 GMT
Hows the C Stock coming along. What is there left to do at this point?
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Post by Richard on Sept 12, 2017 10:34:32 GMT
Afraid C Stock is on hold at the moment. Real life has a habit of getting in the way.
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Post by klmconcorde on Oct 12, 2017 21:38:17 GMT
The C Stock for the Virtual District was started some years ago, but went into abeyance when other matters took on more importance. I'm pleased to say that its now revived and I can show some screenshots of the model operating in the Sim. The train has been made by me and the cab by Darren Carter. However, please don't ask when it will be released. I'm only showing screenshots now so that you know we are not being idle! Even though most of the modelling is now finished, you will know from operating the D Stock that Jimi takes the accurate simulation aspect very seriously and so it will still be a lot of hard work on his part to get the C Stock working as well as the D78. Hopefully we will be able to keep you up to date with the project on these pages. Richard, I have made a even more realistic destination blind, that uses johnston font etc can i send it to u? |
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Post by xdoctorxuk on Jun 23, 2018 17:48:43 GMT
May I just ask, will the C stock have OPO functionality and will the 73' and the D stock get OPO too?
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Post by Eddie on Jun 23, 2018 22:26:56 GMT
At the moment, nothing is in concrete. The route is undergoing extensive work and the C-Stock is still in alpha and little has been done so far, It will ship hopefully when the Wimbledon to Edgware Road branch has been added to the route , trialled and working bug free, for release.
Just watch these boards for more news about the route which has priority at the moment
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Post by Darren on Feb 26, 2019 6:33:46 GMT
Preview of the cab. Sorry, I left the radio on in the background when I was in there.😁
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Post by Eddie on Feb 26, 2019 18:30:27 GMT
Wow, that is the best cab you've built to date, and by some margin, Darren. A super job mate. I can't believe how much detail you've captured there, its almost better than the real one. WOS 3 eat your hearts out. This is going to be an favourite of everyones, when it goes live.
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Post by Mike on Feb 26, 2019 20:59:56 GMT
Looks Great! Thanks for shareing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2019 17:21:22 GMT
Is the C stock nearly ready at this point?
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Post by Xavier on Mar 4, 2019 18:10:46 GMT
Is the C stock nearly ready at this point? Not quite.
New cab is still being scripted and actual engine script is still to be made but will be started on once the new cab is integrated.
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Post by Jimi on Mar 4, 2019 18:58:33 GMT
Xavier is totally correct. You have seen it driving around in screenshots, but that is with a very simple cab and controls so we can make sure the train fits is various places (e.g. ERD road and stations), the coupling looks good, bogies rotate the right way, the saloon looks right, etc. Mostly visual stuff. A little more detail so you have a feel for where all the effort goes and why a train takes a long time...
What is in progress is finalizing the cab details including animation of all the controls, switches, knobs, buttons and lights on the Operator's desk, various panels, rear bulkhead, etc. Each of those performs a function, so then we need LUA code to, for example, spot a switch or control position changing and cause the appropriate thing to happen and maybe a light to illuminate. And we're simulating more animated cab controls in this C69 than even in the D78 or 73TS. Then there's all the audio, both in-cab and external for every sound in the cab or that is heard outside the train (motors, brake hiss, squeaks, etc.). All of that is from real-life recordings and needs to be edited, processed and included in the audio blueprints. Then there is all the physics and performance stuff (definitions and yet more LUA code) that makes the train act and feel like a realistic C69 - weight, size, drag, motor power, acceleration, braking, simulating electro-mechanical systems like the clicking RPAs, etc. We pride ourselves on our Stocks realism, so we take a lot of time to develop and test all the above until, we hope, a real T/Op would feel at home. Thanks for your interest and support and we promise we will keep you informed of progress as appropriate.
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Post by klmconcorde on Mar 4, 2019 19:35:27 GMT
Will the C Stock have a working Dead Mans Handle Feature?
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Post by Jimi on Mar 4, 2019 20:00:45 GMT
Visually and operationally it will work like the 73TS CTBC. There is no point in forcing a player to hold a keyboard key down to mimic holding down a control. We are considering additional animation as part of the CTBC/Reverser actions during cab open-up and shutdown. And related to the CTBC, we will be simulating the EP braking system without the Westinghouse notches.
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Post by nigelbpool2 on Apr 6, 2019 15:00:56 GMT
hi people any update on the c stock?
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Even though most of the modelling is now finished, you will know from operating the D Stock that Jimi takes the accurate simulation aspect very seriously and so it will still be a lot of hard work on his part to get the C Stock working as well as the D78. Hopefully we will be able to keep you up to date with the project on these pages.
